To talk about Robert Duncan’s poem “Often I Am Permitted to Return to a Meadow,” we at PoemTalk chose a day when an apt trio of poet-critics would be at the Kelly Writers House in Philly. It was, in fact, a celebration of the new Poems for the Millenium anthology, gathering together a new array of romanticism – a volume edited by Jeffrey Robinson (resides in Colorado) and Jerome Rothenberg (southern California). Charles Bernstein was on hand to help celebrate Jeffrey’s and Jerry’s great new volume, so we all took an hour aside and moved upward to PoemTalk’s garrett studio (which doubles as the office of Al Filreis) and got deeply and happily into this key poem by Duncan. First drafted in 1953, struggled over in the late 50s, and presented as the prologue poem to the important volume of 1960, The Opening of the Field, which in many ways, indeed, opened the field. Along the way, at various points in the discussion, we are privileged to hear of Jerry Rothenberg’s contemporaneous responses to the poem—he who after all published his own first book (of a very different kind) in that turning-point year. (Donald Allen’s gathering together of the somewhat newly emergent avant-garde, of various schools, in The New American Poetry, was published at the same time, as was Charles Olson’s Maximus Poems.)
As Charles points out during our talk, any of the several key words or phrases in the poem (“permission,” “field,” “return,” “made place,” “everlasting omen”) could have occupied us the entire session. It seemed mostly sufficient to wander around this poetic meadow for a while and then bow out as gracefully as we could. We note that Jerry’s interest in Duncan’s mode has increased over the years. We also note that none of us could quite agree with any of the others about the precise relationship between this poem and the Romantic tradition. Al tells of the recurring dream (from Duncan’s childhood) that animates and informs this “return” to the meadow. Charles remarks on the crucial major distinction between writing, on the one hand, and the state of being given permission to write, on the other. Jeffrey speaks helpfully about the possible connection, for Duncan, between “field” and “feel.” Jerry ends by talking briefly about how Duncan has influenced his own work.
Be sure to listen all the way to the end. We feel that Jerry’s and Jeffrey’s “gathering paradise” recommendations are especially useful. One listener, previewing the episode, has already purchased a copy of the book Jeffrey’s recommends.
This episode was engineered and directed by Mark Lindsay and edited as always by Steve McLaughlin.
Often I Am Permitted to Return to a Meadow
as if it were a scene made-up by the mind, that is not mine, but is a made place,
that is mine, it is so near to the heart, an eternal pasture folded in all thought so that there is a hall therein
that is a made place, created by light wherefrom the shadows that are forms fall.
Wherefrom fall all architectures I am I say are likenesses of the First Beloved whose flowers are flames lit to the Lady.
She it is Queen Under The Hill whose hosts are a disturbance of words within words that is a field folded.
It is only a dream of the grass blowing east against the source of the sun in an hour before the sun’s going down
whose secret we see in a children’s game of ring a round of roses told.
Often I am permitted to return to a meadow as if it were a given property of the mind that certain bounds hold against chaos,
that is a place of first permission, everlasting omen of what is.
[]PT#1: Williams between walls []PT#2: Adrienne Rich won't wait []PT#3: George Oppen's ballad []PT#4: Ginsberg sings Blake [] PT#5: Ted Berrigan's "3 Pages" []PT#6: a Jaap Blonk sound poem []PT#7: Rothenberg's paradise []PT#8: Armantrout's "The Way" [] PT#9: Ashbery at a crossroads []PT#10: one of Stein's portraits []PT#11: Erica Hunt's "voice of no" []PT#12: Ezra Pound's America [] PT#13: Kathleen Fraser's highway []PT#14: Stevens at the end []PT#15: Lyn Hejinian's change []PT#16: Creeley driving the car []PT#17: Rodrigo Toscano's poetics []PT#18: Lydia Davis has a position []PT#19: Bob Perelman's child []PT#20: Amiri Baraka's Kenyatta []PT#21: Bernstein's restlessness []PT#22: Louis Zukofsky anew []PT#23: Cid Corman pees in pants []PT#24: Barbara Guest's new rose []PT#25: Alice Notley's America []PT#26: wild Vachel Lindsay []PT#27: Duncan opens the field []PT#28: Spicer to shrink: drop dead []PT#29: Kit Robinson on mad men []PT#30: favorite W.C. Williams []PT#31: Grenier's sentences []PT#32: Howe's Dickinson's gun []PT#33: flarfist Sharon Mesmer []PT#34: Charles Olson's Maximus []PT#35: Bruce Andrews' center []PT#36: writing through imagism []PT#37: Osman drops leaflets []PT#38: Norman Fischer sees []PT#39: Knight/Brooks & the sun []PT#40: Schultz blogs dementia []PT#41: Ezra in Venice
COMING SOON: [] PT#42: N. Tarn's ecopoetics [] PT#43: John Weiners on youth [] PT#44: Fred Wah's race to go [] PT#45: Eileen Myles on the snake [] PT#46: Jackson MacLow on Pound
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For each episode of PoemTalk four friends and colleagues in the world of poetry and poetics convene to collaborate on a close (but not too close) reading of a single poem. We talk through and around the poem, sometimes beyond it, often disagreeing, always excited by what we discover as we talk, and perhaps after twenty-five minutes we've opened up the verse to a few new possibilities and have gained for a poem that interests us some new readers and listeners.
Listeners? Well, yes: all the PoemTalk poems are available in recordings made by the poets themselves as part of the PennSound archive.
Frank Sherlock
on Cid Corman in PT #23
Marcella Durand
talks about Charles Bernstein in PT#21 & Howe's Dickinson in #32.
Michelle Taransky
talks about Barbara Guest (PT#24) and Vachel Lindsay (#26)
We like to end PoemTalk with a minute or two of “Gathering Paradise” – a chance for several of us to spread wide our narrow hands to gather a little something really poetically good – to extol, hail, puff up, or commend someone, or something going on in the poetry world.
Here's a gathering of our gatherings:
[] We all praised Lorenzo Thomas's Don't Deny My Name: Words and Music and the Black Intellectual Tradition, esp. Aldon Nielsen who had the happy/unhappy task of editing it posthumously (PT #26).
[] Joe Milutis suggests we all check out the work Danny Snelson has been doing (PT #25).
[] Natalie Gerber commends the Dodge Poetry Festival and its new-ish YouTube channel (PT #24).
[] Frank Sherlock urges us all to read Joe Massey (PT #23).
[] Wystan Curnow wants us to look at jackbooks.com (PT #22).
[] Eli Goldblatt lauds the Philly scene, e.g. PhillySound (PT #21).
[] Alan Loney recommends Anne Carson's translation of Sappho (PT #20).
talks about Ashbery (PT9) and Corman (PT23) and Kit Robinson (PT29).
Nada Gordon
channels Wallace Stevens in PT#14 - and soon will appear on our show about Sharon Mesmer. Stay tuned!
island hopping
The evening after our session on Oppen's island poem (PT #3), Linh Dinh blogged about it, with Iceland - he'd just returned from Reykjavik - still on his mind, perhaps the ultimate in where am I really? island experiences. Here's Linh.
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